Saturday, August 16, 2025

Proverbs 30, verse 1 to 4, what is his son's name

 


Proverbs 30:1 ¶ The words of Agur the son of Jakeh, even the prophecy: the man spake unto Ithiel, even unto Ithiel and Ucal, 2 Surely I am more brutish than any man, and have not the understanding of a man. 3 I neither learned wisdom, nor have the knowledge of the holy.

What follows is prophecy. What is prophecy? It is foretelling as in revealing what God has revealed to the prophet and it is “forthtelling” or preaching God’s word.

Prophets preach. They are preachers.

Nehemiah 6:7 And thou hast also appointed prophets to preach of thee at Jerusalem, saying, There is a king in Judah: and now shall it be reported to the king according to these words. Come now therefore, and let us take counsel together.

When a modern day preacher exhorts to holiness, to obey the commands given by the Holy Spirit through Paul in the letters which are doctrine for the Christian, he is doing the work of a prophet.

Acts 15:32 And Judas and Silas, being prophets also themselves, exhorted the brethren with many words, and confirmed them.

Notice here how the word “even” links “the prophecy” as being “The words of Agur the son of Jakeh.” In this context these two things are the same as each other. The words that follow are then prophecy. This method of understanding easiest seen first in Genesis 6:17;

Genesis 6:17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.

…goes on to show us who the Angel of the Lord and the Angel of God were throughout the Old Testament.

Galatians 4:14 And my temptation which was in my flesh ye despised not, nor rejected; but received me as an angel of God, even as Christ Jesus.

Judges 2:1 And an angel of the LORD came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I will never break my covenant with you.

For those who balk at this, who have been confused by the Persian definition of a winged angel as a distinct creature, brought into Christianity by the Roman church, let me point out that an angel is an appearance of someone, a representative, who is for all practical purposes that person, nation, or church. There are no angels with wings in the Bible.

 

Isaiah 63:9 In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old.

But back to the Proverb.

God knows what is going to happen and occasionally, for His own purposes, He reveals them.

Isaiah 42:9 Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.

Agur does a few things here. He humbles himself as not even having the wisdom of most men. He claims he’s more brutish than any man, that is, he is the lowest of the low in intelligence (Psalm 92:6). He claims to not have wisdom or personal knowledge of “the holy.” Here is someone who is going to deliver what he has gathered, collected, or heard. It’s not from him. He’s too common and stupid to even understand what he’s going to say. By making these claims he is focusing the reader on the message, not the messenger, as unfortunately many modern-day celebrity preachers do.


What follows is nothing short of revolutionary and disturbing in its implications. Stay tuned.

 

Proverbs 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son’s name, if thou canst tell?

This is a clear reference to God with metaphorical imagery regarding the power and immensity of His divine nature. The answer to the three questions here; about the ability to move between heaven and earth at will, to control the elements, and to create and make sure every part of the earth, is definitely only one entity, the God of the Bible.

The Jew might say that the reference to God’s Son is a reference to Israel because of Exodus 4:22.

Exodus 4:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:

However, within the context of creating, sustaining, and controlling the prophetic answer is the Lord Jesus Christ.

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

It is Christ by whom all things were made and by whom all things are sustained and held together.

John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

As man is composed of three distinct parts (1Thessalonians 5:23) God consists of God the Father which is the soul of the Godhead, directing His will and His sovereignty while the Holy Spirit is the active Spirit of God throughout existence, His very mind. Christ is the body of the Godhead, so to speak, the visible image of God, or God the Son.

Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

Hebrews 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person,

And yet, is God himself, as well.

John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

John 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

 

He has ascended into heaven and descended to earth.

John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

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