Tuesday, April 29, 2025

Bible Study with Fred, Mark 11, verses 12 to 26, part 2, dispensationalism

 


Mark 11:23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith. 24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them. 25 And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses. 26 But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.

PART TWO Let me talk briefly about different dispensations. Some commentators believe that God has dealt with different people at different stages of man’s existence in different ways and that rightly dividing the word of truth requires that we identify that while we can make a spiritual application to every verse not all verses doctrinally apply to the age in which we live. A spiritual application would be a verse’s or a passage’s or a book’s significance to me personally. A doctrinal application would ask how that the verse or passage or book applied to people in general or the Christian church in particular. For instance we might ask the question dispensationally how you got saved in Abram’s time as opposed to Paul’s time seeing as Christ had not appeared or been crucified and risen from the dead. To say, well, both just had to believe God does not solve the problem of the fact that salvation now is predicated upon belief in Christ’s crucifixion for our sins and in His resurrection when Abram had no such opportunity. Or think of this, the Jew had to offer sacrifices to be obedient while the work of God for Christians is to believe on Christ.

You can take dispensationalism too far, though, as hyperdispensationalists do. Some people believe you should only read the words in red in the gospels if your Bible underscores Jesus’ words that way or they think you should only follow Paul’s letters to the church when there is an abundance of wisdom in every verse in every book of the Bible that we dare not dismiss.

As this section is linked together it is clear that he is talking about Israel and this dispensational truth is given to the Jewish Apostles. This is not a statement that can be claimed by any priest or pastor today. It is so clearly embedded in the doctrinal application apparent here to the Jewish apostles who are sent forth into all the world then and in the Tribulation to come which would have come then had the Jewish leaders accepted Christ but we’ll save that for Acts. It is real simple. You must learn how to separate doctrinal truth from spiritual or practical truth. The Bible is written mostly to the Jews doctrinally. Much of the Old Testament under the Law and before, the Gospels still under the Old but in transition, and Acts shows the development of the early church. Then, the church age begins with Romans and ends in the General or Catholic Epistles as they are called, and then finally Revelation of the end times.

You can apply any verse to the Christian doctrinally from the Church Age letters and any verse from any book doctrinally to you that doesn’t contradict the doctrine in those letters. Any verse anywhere can be applied to you practically or spiritually and it is important to find out how a verse may apply to you today. It’s important to read the entire Bible over and over to see this clear division. It’s not rocket science but quite simple.

Doctrinally, specifically, the Church Age letters apply to me. Doctrinally, specifically, any other verses may apply that don’t contradict the doctrine in the Church Age letters. Every verse in the Bible applies to me in some way, usually in a practical way that helps me draw close to God if I can pray to the Holy Spirit to teach me. However, I am not called to kill Canaanites and just because I forgive someone doesn’t mean that they are right with God and I am never going to make Mount Rainier slide into the Pacific Ocean with prayer.

Literally, and doctrinally, the Mount of Olives will move when Jesus comes back.

Zechariah 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

Literally, and doctrinally, a mountain falls into the sea during the end time struggle.

Revelation 8:8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;

You can make all kinds of spiritual applications to a Christian, making the mountain an obstacle in your life, but doctrinally you need to face facts and quit this accusing sick people of not having enough faith to be healed. This is nonsense and wickedness.

Commentators who believe in a dispensational application of the Bible will say to look at verse 24 and dispensationally and doctrinally link it with another verse written for the same dispensation.

James 4:3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.

And another.

1 John 5:14 ¶ And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us: 15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.

And another.

1John 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.

And another.

Proverbs 28:9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.

False preachers and confused “Christian” denominations who wrench these verses out of Jesus’ time on earth when He called His disciples to follow Him to persecution and even death, dropping everything to walk with Him to the Cross, and apply them now destroy the faith of many. The spiritual application for a Christian in the church age is you must live in obedience to the truth that Christ has given you to have that sweet communion with God and to have any consistent answer to prayer. However, you will not physically move any physical mountains of dirt and stone with your faith.

Verse 25 and 26 are more verses that are misused. This is doctrinally applicable to the Jews under the Law. They are now true if you want that fellowship with Christ that fills you with His glory. However, you are already forgiven as a Christian.

You are forgiven and are sealed by the Holy Spirit. Read Ephesians through very carefully. Even if you don’t do one single work because you are a lazy, useless Christian.

Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

If, after being saved, you get conned out of your faith by a charismatic individual or the education your parents have sacrificed you to and/or you become confused about what you believe. Remember, Christ’s Spirit is in you and you are sealed, as you saw in Ephesians.

2Timothy 2:13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

Many young Christians have been sacrificed through the fire to Molech in a figurative sense by being sent to government schools for brainwashing and propaganda and grow up and out of their faith. Their parents will answer for that at the judgment seat of Christ if they themselves are indeed saved.

One of the greatest sins of modern Christian pastors and teachers and the reason why the greatest impediment to real revival in our churches is usually the pastor himself is their forcing the Bible to contradict itself because they are unable or rather unwilling to rightly divide the word.

2Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

My point is, whether you believe in dispensations or not, is that if you take every verse in the Bible and apply it literally to your situation you will become confused as some passages will seem to contradict others. Also remember that 95% of the Bible is written, in context, to Jewish people. This also applies, according to some commentators, to the people in the Tribulation to come after the Church has been removed, translated, or raptured from the earth. (Translation is the Biblical term. Think of the Medieval “Relic Translation” where the bones of supposed saints were moved from their original location to a better location.)

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